And yet they also read this series of novels that has nothing to do with computation or digital culture, and is in some ways removed from that, this long writing project that in many ways represents a sort of return to a style of realism that maybe has more in common in with the early 20th century or the 19th century than it does with a lot of other contemporary literature. I think this is interesting in two respects: one is that all these people are people who normally write about media or write about the interface between computation and culture. He came up to me and said 'So have you read Karl Ove Knausgård?' So, I began to see that there was this kind of pattern here. We met in Bremen, again for a digital literature event and all you wanted to talk about was Knausgård and then a few weeks later I saw Nathan Jones, again at a media arts event. When I get back to Norway, I'll pick up the first book,' and then a couple of weeks later I ran into Søren Pold and that was I guess also at the same time as you had recently read the books. He had just burned through the first five books of the Min Kamp / My Struggle series that summer. He's a media artist, a digital literature author, and all he wanted to talk to me about when we were there to talk about digital literature was Knausgård. First, I saw Mark Amerika at the University of Colorado. The reason I started reading Knausgård was actually that when I went back to the States a few years back, Knausgård came up in conversation several times. First let me say a little bit about how this discussion came about: Scott Rettberg: We're here to talk about Karl Ove Knausgård's Min Kamp / My Struggle.

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